Disclaimer: Before I even continue with my arguments and proofs, there is something that must be made absolutely clear. There can be no question of it. There is a massive difference between acknowledging God or even that He might exist, and actually following Him and putting yourself in the service of Christ. Without reception of the Holy Spirit, there is no change. This is why so-called Christians, yes, even if Hitler said he was, are not indicative of actual Followers of Christ. And such a change must be out of sincerity, the true reconciliation that you know what the Truth is and how to correct your fallen condition. As such, these proofs are not fool-proof. No matter how air-tight my cases, they will not suddenly make someone hard of heart into a believer as suddenly if they had been exposed to a frosty wind. Let us continue.
This second argument starts where the first left off. From my first argument we see that is logically necessary for a Creating Force. This proof used to be much longer being a list of deductions from non-Christian faiths. However, I have condensed it and changed partially to a proof by induction.
Premise 1: The Force must exist outside of creation, otherwise it presents a paradox.
Premise 2: The Force must be able to create the universe as we know it (logically, orderly, etc).
Point 1: The Force must be self-sufficient and uncreated. Thus we can discount the following:
Aboriginal "Dreamtime" and other "guiding ancestor" types can be discounted because it does not speak of creation's ultimate beginnings. The Force, Baiame, is not sufficient to create and rather teaches man through the use of ancestors.
Taoist use of yin and yang, because they are created (as are other things) are without logical explanation. The elements that would form the universe already existed without explanation.
Hinduism fails because it describes the universe as eternal or an illusion. Since we have already seen that the universe cannot be eternal, it must be an illusion. If the universe is an illusion, then it cannot be eternal but only appear to be eternal. Thus, the universe cannot be eternal or an illusion.
Islam fails due to logical inconsistencies in the Quran See here for examples. Thus the Force, Allah, is either mistaken in his book or is not logical.
Other religions, particularly polytheist ones, rely on various deities that exist within creation and cannot account for each other. There is no order, even among those with the power, let alone the paradox of existing in creation. This is essentially the same as the guiding ancestor type.
Point 2: By previous result, we know that the universe requires a creator. By previous result, we have deduced the potential list. By induction, we see that God, in Christianity, fits the requirements. He exists outside of creation, He has the capacity to create(unlike other deities) and He is orderly thus creating the universe in a certain way with certain laws for its function.
Conclusion: This proof and the first show that God is able to, by definition, be the Creator. However, just because He does, doesn't suddenly mean people will change their hearts. This logic only serves to show that the conclusion is logical. In other words, this is a tool for those at a certain point in their journey. Please do not use this or my other posts as a beating stick.
"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable- if there is any moral excellence and if there is any praise - dwell on those things" Phil 4:8
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Thursday, April 24, 2014
Sunday, December 8, 2013
Arguments for the Existence of God
Here is argument one:
Argument 1
Given: Universe cannot be eternal by 2nd law of thermodynamics
Given: Each created thing has an creator by Law of Sufficient Cause (3rd law of logic)
Given: Design requires intelligence (observation)
Given: Universe cannot create itself because of Fallacy of Infinite Regress and LoSC
Conclusion 1: Universe was created because it cannot be eternal; also, creating agent must be external
Conclusion 2: Universe was created by an uncaused force because of Law of Sufficient Reason
Conclusion 3: Universe was created by some intelligent, uncaused force
Synthesis: The universe was created and designed by some uncaused, external, intelligent force
As can be seen, this is merely a deist argument. Still, it is logically impossible to be an atheist due to this argument. Argument 2 will be posted in the near future.
Edit: It has been brought to my attention that Gottfreid Leibniz and William Lane Craig also follow this argument, or one very similar. This post is all work done by me.
Argument 1
Given: Universe cannot be eternal by 2nd law of thermodynamics
Given: Each created thing has an creator by Law of Sufficient Cause (3rd law of logic)
Given: Design requires intelligence (observation)
Given: Universe cannot create itself because of Fallacy of Infinite Regress and LoSC
Conclusion 1: Universe was created because it cannot be eternal; also, creating agent must be external
Conclusion 2: Universe was created by an uncaused force because of Law of Sufficient Reason
Conclusion 3: Universe was created by some intelligent, uncaused force
Synthesis: The universe was created and designed by some uncaused, external, intelligent force
As can be seen, this is merely a deist argument. Still, it is logically impossible to be an atheist due to this argument. Argument 2 will be posted in the near future.
Edit: It has been brought to my attention that Gottfreid Leibniz and William Lane Craig also follow this argument, or one very similar. This post is all work done by me.
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